Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Avodah Zarah 111

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ואין בוצרין עם ישראל שעושה פירותיו בטומאה וכ"ש שאין דורכין אבל בוצרין עם העובד כוכבים בגת שמותר לגרום טומאה לחולין שבא"י:

Nor may they glean grapes together with an Israelite who works with his fruits while he is impure, and all the more so they may not tread grapes. But they may glean together with a non-Jew, since it is permitted to defile to the ordinary produce in the land of Israel.

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ואינו עושה יין נסך עד שירד לבור: והתניא יין משיקפה

And [the juice] does not become yayin nesekh until it descends into the vat. But we have learned: Wine [becomes subject to the tithe] when it is skimmed!

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אמר רבא לא קשיא הא ר"ע הא רבנן דתנן יין משירד לבור ר"ע אומר משיקפה

Rava said: There is no contradiction, because this is R. Akiva’s opinion and [that of the mishnah] is the rabbis. For it has been taught: [The liquid is considered to be] wine when it descends into the vat. R. Akiva says, When it is skimmed.

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איבעיא להו קיפוי דבור או קיפוי דחבית

The question was asked: Does this mean skimming [of the wine] while it is in the vat or when it is in the cask?

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ת"ש דתניא יין משיקפה אע"פ שקפה קולט מן הגת העליונה ומן הצינור ושותה ש"מ קיפוי דבור קאמרינן ש"מ

Come and hear! For we have learned: [It is to be considered] wine when it is skimmed; and although he has skimmed it, he may draw some off from the upper press and from the pipe and drink it. Learn from this that we mean the skimming while it is in the vat. Conclude from this.

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והתני רב זביד בדבי רבי אושעיא יין משירד לבור ויקפה ר"ע אומר משישלה בחביות תרצה נמי להך קמייתא הכי יין משירד לבור ויקפה ר"ע אומר משישלה בחביות

But did not R. Zevid teach in a baraita from the School of R. Oshaia: [It is to be considered] wine when it descends into the vat and is skimmed; R. Akiva says: When it is drawn into casks! You should also resolve that former baraita in this way: [It is considered] wine when it descends into the vat and is skimmed; R. Akiva says: When it is drawn into casks.

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ואלא מתניתין דקתני אינו עושה יין נסך עד שירד לבור לימא תלתא תנאי היא לא שאני יין נסך דאחמירו ביה רבנן

But what about our Mishnah which teaches, “It does not become yayin nesekh until it descends into the vat,” conclude that there are three tannaitic opinions. No; it is different as regards yayin nesekh because for the rabbis were strict with it;

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